Thank you Andrew for this next follow up of Torben. But I dont think he forbids us either to learn and talk about what scripture teaches us, concerning not profaning the holy things (specifically miracles) and where it can lead, especially where miracles are taking place. Very bad thing to lead off with. I am the way, the truth and the life; no one comes to the Father but by me. In such statements as these, Jesus made it clear that He is the sole and perfect means of salvation, and except through Him there is no salvation (compare Acts 4:12). Those who CANNOT GIVE UP CONTROL TO THE HOLY SPIRIT WILL NOT MANIFEST THE FRUIT OR THE GIFTS. (Matthew 3:11-12) John the Baptist says: I indeed baptize you with water unto repentance:but he that cometh after me is mightier than I, whose shoes I am not worthy to bear:he shall baptize you with the Holy Ghost, and with fire: 12 Whose fan is in his hand, and he will throughly purge his floor, and gather his wheat into the garner; but he will burn up the chaff with unquenchable fire. If there is one, then I would ask the readers of this site to please post it for our enlightenment. At some point I honestly dont consider my understanding of this to be fully formed yet (ie, interpreting/understanding scripture) so Im reluctant to even try to discuss it in writing until I have a better grasp of things. I promised her I did not get your email but will ask about it on the forum as I will also love it, as she said she is finding it difficult to post , not sure of the cause. Gal 3:27 So this relates to the videos because not always doing what The Lord says is the same as not always listening to what He says. He was a new believer who just found out about the Grace of God, the redemption of the cross, the Word of God. Thank you Barry, & Gary I read about Wigglesworth from your link, & appreciated it also. I heard it from a preacher some years ago. Lord heal out hearts of the cynicism. I am also sad to report that I knew a man whose wife was dying of cancer. He even said that it doesnt really work in the church and that it is easier to believe for someone to be healed that you are never going to see again. He has regard for all. The Call of Jesus, by Torben Sondergaard, is like an easy to understand instruction manual pulled from Scripture to help us effectively live the life to which Jesus has called us. Any unforgiveness or unhealed wounds of the heart that the scriptures command that we be SANCTIFIED from; HEALED from; PURIFIED from..GIVE THE DEVIL LEGAL ACCESS TO TORMENT AND ATTACK US. When you are genuinely born again you prayed to Jesus Christ and you repented to Jesus Christ and ask Him for forgiveness of all your sins and because of this you are automaticallyspirituallybaptizedinto the One and only Baptism of the Jesus Christ, there after the Holy Spirit will come toabide in youpermanently. The leg lengthening thing Ive seen happen in real life and, no, it wasnt a trick because I knew everyone involved and they were almost as shocked as I was. All those people say they got healed and you call them liars, prove they are lying! That was 25 years ago and it never went back. Thats not me even mentioning all the weird things that happened while I was at his school for 2 months before I left. Jesus is real and He wants to be your Lord and Savior. I think the real point of the videos is to teach people to go out in public and pray for the sick and tell them about Jesus. 1 Corinthians 10:1. To Torben, I would say that if what you are doing is of the Lord, you dont need to go around tooting your own horn about it. Im pretty sure there isnt any FEAR in the DIVINE Holy Spirit. I totally endorse ministry in the market place rather than in the church, He came to save the world, that is where He ministered, that is where we as His servants should be also. Sadly, Torben chose to include the oldest parlor trick in the book, making someones supposedly shorter leg grow longer. Torben Sondergaard was detained as a national threat for bringing firearms into the country. Andrew and Torben, you are positively RIGHT ON! a brief video (above) where Torben discusses the amazing things that Finally, Andrew you know I appreciate your zeal and commitment for what you do. Such being the case, we must go to the Bible to determine God's will with regard to modern - day apostles. A GLOWING FACE that appears WEIRD enough to scare others I can be a `big picture,` person & I so appreciate those who labour in daily life with family, difficulties, work etc & try to help where I can & pray, for we are all on this journey together. A very dangerous cynicism takes hold at that point. It boils down to: YOU DONT KNOW HOW GOD OPERATES AND YOU NEVER WILL. This shows the administrative authority of the empowered Son of Man. Besides which, if the Pharisees can witness healing and deliverance and accuse Jesus of having a demon, you just wont convince everyone even if they are standing right next to it when a miracle happens. Stay bless. He healed people SOMETIMES He spoke to them of repentance OFTEN not. Torben and Ronald did say that they felt nothing when they prayed for people who were healed. If we do that then His work brings death to us. The nature of deception is that those being deceived arent aware they are being deceived. fromheaven,orofmen? Its sad that christians would mock other christians and claim they cannot discern the false from the truth when it comes to their personal walk with the Lord. He may think he is, but it may be otherwise. The government then investigated the Sndergaard family when they began homeschooling. Many genuine Christians will think they are missing out on something special if they dont speak in gibberish that God favours those who speak in tongues more than those who dont. But it is patently obvious to me from listening to him preach and reading his statement of faith on his local congregations website that he does know and believe and love the Name of our Lord Jesus Christ he knows He is God and he knows He is Lord I am not saying that he is perfect, I am not saying that everything he does or endorses is right or perfect but if we see such a one who loves our Lord Jesus Christ endorsing or doing something which we dont believe to be right or true what is our response to be? Because he wants to give us the more. Andthere arethreethat bear witnessinearth,the Spirit,andthe water,andthe blood:andthese threeagreeinone. Years ago The Lord said there would be no more one man doing all the ministry but the sheep ministering to the sheep, one on one! Watchful- THIS work of God in us is holiness. So, this is what I told him. Torben Sndergaard was born in 1976 in a non-christian family. (Luke 5: 13) John 6:15 I will post a few excerpts from the book Your Power In The Holy Spirit by John G Lake, who I personally believe was a man used mightily by God to advance His Kingdom in the early 1900s. Philip TELEPORTED. May our Lord give us boldness to step out of our comfort zones in obedience to His Word! 1)God is Who HE SAID HE IS. Perhaps, those who are calling BURN THE WITCHES ought to actually STUDY the scriptures about how the BIBLE DEFINES sorcery and witchcraft..because whatever CURSE one speaks against the works of the Holy Spirit is actually turned back on the one who speaks the CURSE, AS A JUDGMENT OF GOD. Matthew 7: I just read 1 Kings 18. However, when I have sinned and defiled my soul, I MUST go to Jesus and plead with Him to wash me with his blood. I am limiting my comments to the specific issue raised above of whether Bill Johnson believes in the Divinity of Christ which he does which makes him our brother in the Lord , I am not going there with respect to your previous question about your friend . I have been privileged to partner with the Lord Jesus in such healings in public places with the late Neville Logan back in the 70s. Jesus said greater works than these shall you do! Now lets take a look at what the scriptures REALLY say about WEIRD things taking place in Jesus Life.not to mention the disciples lives. It also helps with our conversation to each other to be encouraging & uplifting, & helps us to discern error when people would give us I would have liked to post what God showed me about Emma the angel being a demon. I dont want to put myself on par with Jesus and assume my obedience to the Father is perfect; it isnt. And yet He said, But I have a baptism to be baptized with; and how am I straitened till it be accomplished! (Luke 12:50). By whose authority do you come hear and tell us that those people were not healed by Jesus? But God has` His keys,`for studying His Word. Exd 16:10 KJV And it came to pass, as Aaron spake unto the whole congregation of the children of Israel, that they looked toward the wilderness, and, behold, the GLORY of the LORD APPEARED in the cloud. And treat His holy things as HOLY? When I have worked in our garden the whole day, my body picks up dirt, mud and muck and do not need to go to Jesus to ask Him to cleanse me. Next, Sister Lankford told of the man with no arm. This is how His Kingdom comes in the earth! You missed the entire divine point and purpose of the video- to show that Jesus still uses ordinary , humble, weak nobodies to do his marvelous works. Teshuva- you are absolutely right on saying this is Gods work and not mans and that man can only produce mans work but God can only do Gods works. Torben Sondergaard is paired with his delightful wife, Lene Sondergaard. For forgiveness of sin? Love you all in the LordLightning Storm, you sure do keep me on my toes. May we all have the zeal and faith of new believers who havent been tainted by the spirit of religion. As Ive stated before, true miracles and miraculous healings are not subject to debate as they are objective and cannot be challenged. To my utter astonishment she replied, As Jeff Moore so elegantly wrote, Why should the Devil have all the good music? Besides which, you dont hear this kind of thing preached. Chas351 God has not changed, He still does miracles as signs following the gospel, and praise Him for it! back there. There is a guy in the pool at 2:02 min he is speaking in tongues. The Bible is replete with verses about this (some of which I pointed out in m previous post). Seymour had approached a man with a wooden leg and asked, What did you come here for? The man replied, I want you to pray for my leg. Jonathan you said 1 Corinthians 6:11. In this case, I dont know if Toben is an elder or not as that fact is not made clear. God doesnt like strange fire being mixed with His; its very distasteful. Upon Sndergaard's arrival in the U.S. in 2019, he immediately applied for asylum and set up his residence in California while he grew his ministry. Torben has been in jail since his arrest when authorities shackled him hand and foot like a terrorist. amount of `gobly gook.`. This is not a one time event this is continuous. Johnathan Isreal- I am not ashamed to take the Lords name Christian you can say it was a handle the worldly people mockingly gave to the early followers of Jesus Christ if you want ( I doubt you are right about that enormous leap of assumption as the text does not say what you so dogmatically assume. Neither did He give any dogmas or creeds which may be used to distinguish believers from non-believers. But some people who saw the video You can be ashamed of that name if you want but I will gladly bear the reproach of that wonderful name any day! I continued to suffer pain for almost another year, before going to a chiropractor, where I was first x-rayed, then we discussed my history. In helping to delineate the true from the false, one thing the Lord made me aware of recently is that the false relies on witchcraft (though they dont know it) whereas the true relies on the Holy Spirit. Pharisees. Have a weak personal relationship with Jesus Christ, or dont have a relationship with Jesus Christ at all. He is NOT MR. Wierdsville! He also began the Jesus Center in Denmark, which trained disciples from 30 nations to spread this gospel message around the world. Step 3. OFFICIAL UPDATE ON TORBEN SONDERGAARD: January 17, 2023 : Those who have reverence for the Lord live.. USA: 210 Democrats vote against bill requiring.. OFFICIAL UPDATE ON TORBEN SONDERGAARD: January 17, 2023 . Thats what I said..manifesting His tangible Presence AND HIS NATURE. Anyone who does not agree with this is just trying to drag you backwards. And when man USES these things, that is witchcraft. I too have been badly wounded and burned by previous fakes and deceptions- thats no excuse for cynicism. And he put his hand into his bosom: and when he took it out, behold, his hand [was] leprous as snow. Are you serious? 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